Thanks Linda....read your comment on yesterdays post...So beautiful...!!!....and you can post here again YAY !!!!and what a beautiful picture that was !!!xoxo
for sure deb . i have to learn more about prop 8 and what it means . no harm in educating myself . by the way is prop 8 applying to America or Canada or both ?
i got in a debate on this topic with a right wing Christan friend of an american friend on Facebook earlier today . i wish i had been able to post this film in reply to him . i kept my manners and my cool but i could have used the humour in the film ! the comment i made was along the lines of i often kiss my boyfriend in public( as we don't live in the same country we don;t see each other that often ). people don;t react to it . i wonder how people would react if i was kissing a woman in the same way .
thank you for admiring the picture i posted shalaka ,i wish i had taken it the pictures you added are so cool too. i have taken pictures form a similar location but not had as good results . wow that the first time anyone has ever called my ramblings on here beautiful !
I'm going to chime in with another, "Great picture, Shalaka!"
I also wanted to comment on some of what the video said, if that's ok :) Firstly, the shellfish thing: as far a I am aware the ban on what you can and can't eat was lifted in the New Testament (Mark 7:19) - although to be honest I'm not sure why it was originally said in Leviticus that it should be "detestable" to us. Secondly, the selling your daughter into sleavery thing: as far as I am aware slavery meant seven years service (unless you wanted it to be longer) where you were thoroughly looked after and treated well - unlike our current idea of slavery. I was also under the impression that it was only as a last resort for out-of-control debt. In saying that, though, I can't say I like the concept. Honestly, I'm glad it doesn't happen today!
Some of those older concepts can be SO HARD to wrap the mind around (for me anyway), but I wanted to share my interpretation of how it worked. If you think differently I'd love to hear about it because, like I said, it can be very hard to understand :P
Thanks for this, Aimee! I believe the point in those lines about the Bible's words is that as life on Earth changes, so too do the "rules" of life. After all, it's only man's interpretation of Godly wisdom -- it can only be as smart as the smartest man of the time. God keeps making us smarter and wiser and more enlightened as we go through the ages (like a child becoming a grownup), and so must our broad thinking become smarter and more enlightened. Bottom line, slavery=bad, prejudice=bad, compassion and love and acceptance=GOOD!!
I agree, I've always been fascinated by different people's interpretations of different texts (in particular religious scripts). And the compassion, love and acceptance thing - ABSOLUTELY! I'll always respect someone's moral point of view, but I'll also always stand up and say something if those views (even if I agree) lead to bullying, discrimination or mistreatment of any kind.
It's amazing how many interpretations we can make, isn't it?! One of my favourites is the whole "Spare the rod and spoil the child": that so can be read two ways (obviously, I'm on the side of spoiling the babes :) ). Also I wonder how much the words could have gotten messed up when the ancient languages were translated into English. I mean, words can so easily be tweaked in many different ways.
Bottom line, I believe as long as we're loving and kind and accepting of one another, there's still room for different opinions. And I will always have the opinion that we should accept gay rights and gay marriage. xo
Yeah I've always wondered that too - especially with the amount of translations we have. And then there's also the fact that language evolves and the meaning of certain words along with it.
I absolutely agree with you about love and acceptance, and so, while I may disagree with you about homosexuality, I continue to admire your wisdom, insight and understanding. And I also have a million thanks in my heart to you for your grace in discussing this. I was terrified that I might word things wrongly and get into trouble for having a controversial opinion. Or, worse, that you would see me as harsh or close-minded. Which you might, but if you do you had the tact not to let it come through :) So thanks again.
I agree. I think we have to remember how long ago the bible was written and keep in mind that the main message of the word is love. Do onto others. To me that is the message that mankind continually let's slip through it's fingers. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. If we all believed that and nothing else..peace. Kindness. Man and woman kind at it's intended best.
I so agree, Deb! Aimee, you'll always be welcome here. I prefer we talk about these things instead of pretending they don't exist. But, as you say, as long as we talk with grace and kindness. Which we can. So thank you for that.
A day late, but just read the blog about the moon. My husband and I also just love the moon especially a full moon - throw open the curtains and let it spill into the bedroom. My wedding ring was a moonstone - it's all we could aford at the time, but it has remained my only wedding ring! So far, your blogs have always brought a song to mind and in this case Antonin Dvorak's gorgeous aria from his opera Rusalka, "Song to the Moon". Absolutely, 'take your breath away' beautiful!
I remember a friend of mine brought up the Bible "bring forth fruit and multiply" message to a gay friend of hers. I loved his answer. He said there are many ways to "fruit" and "multiply" and then went on to remind her of the many many famous gay men and women who throughout history have brought us beautiful art, heavenly music, outstanding architecture, brilliant inventions, inspired dance etc etc. These gifts have blessed many for thousands of years! He really took the "inspired" Word of the Bible - and did not get bogged down in it's 'letter' which can often leave one cold. I liked that! After all, "men" "women" are just our present concept of what we really are - ideally I think we express both what are considered male and female qualities. And those qualities come in all shapes, sizes, colours and genders! Ooops......hope I'm not becoming a blog hog!!
Diane!! LOVE this response!! That's exactly how I feel. How can any of us be "wrong" in the eyes of God??? Only Man decides that. NO blog hog, just joining in the fun. xo
Loved it...Loved all of 'em....especially Neil Patrick Harris...!!!!Jack Black always reminds me of PO from kung fu Panda :D !!!
ReplyDeleteHeres the Crescent moon Picture you asked for Ma'am !....Sorry got your message this morning :D
http://www.google.co.in/imgres?q=crescent+moon+over+poseidon&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=799&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=5ju_C2sWTzt8HM:&imgrefurl=http://wordlesstech.com/2011/03/01/waning-crescent-moon-over-poseidon-temple/&docid=VQDnhkHVX8OtkM&imgurl=http://wordlesstech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/waning-crescent-moon-over-poseidon-temple.jpg&w=1400&h=893&ei=QcYzT4byAsGhiAf_xvXzAQ&zoom=1
yeah its a google link !
I know. I always love Neil P.H. Thanks for the gorgeous shots Shalaka. Appreciate you doing that!
DeleteI love it! Awesome!! :) Thanks for sharing. :)
ReplyDeleteYou are welcome Jo. Fun and true!
DeleteShalaka your picture is amazing : )
ReplyDeleteAlso, LOVE the prop 8 little musical : )
Kelly yes pix is amaaaaaaazing isn't it?
DeleteThanks Kelly....found it on google...For our darling Deb.... !!!!
ReplyDeletethanks for posting this it is hilarious. as someone who has grown up and christian it is very true.
ReplyDeletethat is a very cool picture too Shalaka
Thanks Linda....read your comment on yesterdays post...So beautiful...!!!....and you can post here again YAY !!!!and what a beautiful picture that was !!!xoxo
DeleteLinda the true things are always funniest right? xo
Deletefor sure deb . i have to learn more about prop 8 and what it means . no harm in educating myself . by the way is prop 8 applying to America or Canada or both ?
Deletei got in a debate on this topic with a right wing Christan friend of an american friend on Facebook earlier today . i wish i had been able to post this film in reply to him . i kept my manners and my cool but i could have used the humour in the film ! the comment i made was along the lines of i often kiss my boyfriend in public( as we don't live in the same country we don;t see each other that often ). people don;t react to it . i wonder how people would react if i was kissing a woman in the same way .
thank you for admiring the picture i posted shalaka ,i wish i had taken it the pictures you added are so cool too. i have taken pictures form a similar location but not had as good results . wow that the first time anyone has ever called my ramblings on here beautiful !
Awhh...Deb.....Anything for you Sweetheart...glad it made you happy....thats all I want!!!! Love ya...xoxo
ReplyDeleteAww...Neil Patrick Harris ♥
ReplyDeleteAnd so true.
Loved this.
ReplyDeleteI know huh Madge. so great and so funny!
DeleteAwhhhh And I found a few more pix in my albums.....here you go!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/72626631@N07/6847591613/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72626631@N07/6847591299/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72626631@N07/6847588237/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72626631@N07/6847584817/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72626631@N07/6847584601/in/photostream
They arent clear...but they are the best ones.....and the last pix...yes it is the moon...look at how big it is !! Hope you Like 'em Deb...!xo
They are great Shalaka! One of them it looks like the little crescent moon is almost sitting on the branch. Thanks for sending. xo
DeleteWowowowowowowow.
DeleteI'm going to chime in with another, "Great picture, Shalaka!"
ReplyDeleteI also wanted to comment on some of what the video said, if that's ok :) Firstly, the shellfish thing: as far a I am aware the ban on what you can and can't eat was lifted in the New Testament (Mark 7:19) - although to be honest I'm not sure why it was originally said in Leviticus that it should be "detestable" to us. Secondly, the selling your daughter into sleavery thing: as far as I am aware slavery meant seven years service (unless you wanted it to be longer) where you were thoroughly looked after and treated well - unlike our current idea of slavery. I was also under the impression that it was only as a last resort for out-of-control debt. In saying that, though, I can't say I like the concept. Honestly, I'm glad it doesn't happen today!
Some of those older concepts can be SO HARD to wrap the mind around (for me anyway), but I wanted to share my interpretation of how it worked. If you think differently I'd love to hear about it because, like I said, it can be very hard to understand :P
Thanks for this, Aimee! I believe the point in those lines about the Bible's words is that as life on Earth changes, so too do the "rules" of life. After all, it's only man's interpretation of Godly wisdom -- it can only be as smart as the smartest man of the time. God keeps making us smarter and wiser and more enlightened as we go through the ages (like a child becoming a grownup), and so must our broad thinking become smarter and more enlightened. Bottom line, slavery=bad, prejudice=bad, compassion and love and acceptance=GOOD!!
DeleteI agree, I've always been fascinated by different people's interpretations of different texts (in particular religious scripts).
DeleteAnd the compassion, love and acceptance thing - ABSOLUTELY! I'll always respect someone's moral point of view, but I'll also always stand up and say something if those views (even if I agree) lead to bullying, discrimination or mistreatment of any kind.
It's amazing how many interpretations we can make, isn't it?! One of my favourites is the whole "Spare the rod and spoil the child": that so can be read two ways (obviously, I'm on the side of spoiling the babes :) ). Also I wonder how much the words could have gotten messed up when the ancient languages were translated into English. I mean, words can so easily be tweaked in many different ways.
DeleteBottom line, I believe as long as we're loving and kind and accepting of one another, there's still room for different opinions. And I will always have the opinion that we should accept gay rights and gay marriage. xo
Yeah I've always wondered that too - especially with the amount of translations we have. And then there's also the fact that language evolves and the meaning of certain words along with it.
DeleteI absolutely agree with you about love and acceptance, and so, while I may disagree with you about homosexuality, I continue to admire your wisdom, insight and understanding.
And I also have a million thanks in my heart to you for your grace in discussing this. I was terrified that I might word things wrongly and get into trouble for having a controversial opinion. Or, worse, that you would see me as harsh or close-minded. Which you might, but if you do you had the tact not to let it come through :) So thanks again.
I agree. I think we have to remember how long ago the bible was written and keep in mind that the main message of the word is love. Do onto others. To me that is the message that mankind continually let's slip through it's fingers. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you. If we all believed that and nothing else..peace. Kindness. Man and woman kind at it's intended best.
DeleteI so agree, Deb! Aimee, you'll always be welcome here. I prefer we talk about these things instead of pretending they don't exist. But, as you say, as long as we talk with grace and kindness. Which we can. So thank you for that.
DeleteHear hear, Deb! Couldn't have said it better :)
DeleteThanks, Barbara.
A day late, but just read the blog about the moon. My husband and I also just love the moon especially a full moon - throw open the curtains and let it spill into the bedroom. My wedding ring was a moonstone - it's all we could aford at the time, but it has remained my only wedding ring!
ReplyDeleteSo far, your blogs have always brought a song to mind and in this case Antonin Dvorak's gorgeous aria from his opera Rusalka, "Song to the Moon". Absolutely, 'take your breath away' beautiful!
Love the songs, Diane! Thanks for expanding my repertoire.
DeleteDiane I love that you never replaced the moonstone. Says a lot. I will look for that song and listen. Thanks so much for that.
ReplyDeleteI remember a friend of mine brought up the Bible "bring forth fruit and multiply" message to a gay friend of hers. I loved his answer. He said there are many ways to "fruit" and "multiply" and then went on to remind her of the many many famous gay men and women who throughout history have brought us beautiful art, heavenly music, outstanding architecture, brilliant inventions, inspired dance etc etc. These gifts have blessed many for thousands of years! He really took the "inspired" Word of the Bible - and did not get bogged down in it's 'letter' which can often leave one cold. I liked that!
ReplyDeleteAfter all, "men" "women" are just our present concept of what we really are - ideally I think we express both what are considered male and female qualities. And those qualities come in all shapes, sizes, colours and genders!
Ooops......hope I'm not becoming a blog hog!!
Diane!! LOVE this response!! That's exactly how I feel. How can any of us be "wrong" in the eyes of God??? Only Man decides that. NO blog hog, just joining in the fun. xo
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